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  Does the WTS have a clergy class

  by blondie in

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  this can be confusing because the wts has adjusted from not having a clergy class to not having a "paid" clergy class.. "a congregation of brothers precludes having a proud clergy class that honors itself with high-sounding titles and elevates itself above a laity" wt 6/1/2001 p. 12, pp 11. still same idea in 2021 wt october, p. 20, pp.

  7, but 2022 in the wt publication, frequently asked questions about jehovah’s witnesses, page 13, the wts inserts "paid" in front of "clergy perhaps to shore up their current statement in secular courts they have clergy, just not paid) "following the model of first-century christianity, jehovah’s witnesses have no clergy-laity division.

  all baptized witnesses are ordained ministers and share in the preaching and teaching work.

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  Governing body, Elder, pioneer, MS, CO, annointed are highsounding titles.

  Clergy confidentiality is a thing. Gossip, asking for direction before acting, investigating are not confidential. Elders are not given any training in psychology, medicine, social work, just given a rule book. Then we have to deal with personality, intelligence, lack of decency, voyeurism, bad tempers. There are mean bosses and kind ones.

  Every organization has to have a structure to function. Some are rigid, some use sense, some get greedy.

  A distinction on duties is needed to keep spinster pioneers away from jails, as has happened.
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  Voter Fraud !

  by Sea Breeze in

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  dick morris sounds the alert:.

  https://www.dickmorris.com/fight-massive-democratice-fraud/ .

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  The totalitarian countries are where you find voter fraud, candidate supression, lies. Covid was just a fortunate ( for them,) occurrence.

  The mark has changed with every innovation of man. Big if Revelation was anything more than mushrooms. Every end time bunch reads what they want into Revelation, Daniel, Isaiah and add Nostradamus, and ancient aliens.
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  1914- responsible for the biggest decrease in JW's?

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  theres a couple of threads re: 1914 on the board right now and it got me thinking.. the jw doctrine of the 1914 generation is a key doctrine , yet it is probably the number one reason most have left over the decades.. 1975- within one generation.. 1995 - new understanding of the word generation.. 2010- overlapping generation first mentioned- some anointed survive armageddon.. 2015- infamous overlapping generations chart featuring david splane.. its obvious the org is changing the goalposts and constantly trying to squeeze as much time as they can before they have to abandon this altogether.

  or will they come up with something new?.

  does anyone else think this ever changing doctrine is responsible for the biggest loss of members?.

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  The decrease in counted numbers may not show. A cynical lack of zeal is showing. Look at the half still zooming, most with no picture as an indicator.

  If the shunning dogma ceased who knows what would happen.
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  2022-05-04-Adjustment to Amount of Time for Isolation from In-Person Meetings!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  2022-05-04. announcement:.

  adjustment to amount of time for isolation from-in-person meetings.. .

  https://www.filemail.com/d/phdvcdkungxjpkn.

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  I see a pattern. Whatever the government decides is copied 1 or 2 months later.

  Some of us pimo are going to face a resumption of door work at a later date
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  What is "Brazen" conduct according to new 'Shepherd the Flock of God' book

  by TastingFreedom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what is brazen conduct according to the watchtower?.

  here are some references from the new flock book:.

  they have really pushed the envelope to bundle a bunch of things into one really evil word.

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  Out of the home at 18, or 15 for my son. ( I did NOT).

  Half sibling, step sibling, 1st cousin, 2nd cousin, inlaws? Now define necessary.

  The more egregious extended families are the big wigs that run businesses using (no benefits) contract labor. You know who you are.
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  How Murderers In the Congregation are handled

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  i don't have the link but i am trying to post this, this is from a previous post on jwn.

  watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc. dear brothers:.. we received your letter of december 17 in which you inquire about handling a situation involving a brother who has been guilty of serious violation of the law in the past.. you explained that you received information indicating that this brother ?committed several murders and crimes before his baptism.

  you ask if law obligates some action on our part.

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  Confidentiality is an oxymoron with elders and WT.

  let it be noted that the murders are a lesser crime than smoking Marijuana
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  What have you forgotten you ever even knew?

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  at a certain point, as the years tick by, you start to realize that you have forgotten a lot of things.

  typically, something you learned, some knowledge or skill you used to have, that you just haven't used for so long you no longer remember anything but that you once knew it.. i saw an article about electrical resistors the other day, and how the colored bands signify the rating.

  now all i remember is that i used to know it, and that resistors do something with, erm, electricity ...

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  I can't remember.

  I know my math skills have declined as I do not need them for work now. Some things I did as a brash youngster I would not attempt now.
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  Jehovah Witnesses lost in Court. Disfellowshipped Sister Reinstated by Court Order?

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  imagine the "faithful" jws who are now having to talk to this person by court order or face the consequences----legally.. exjws are spreading the news and now some exjws who have been disfellowshipped for years are starting to research to see if this is an option in their country.

  here are the articles, you need to translate in google.

  https://www.nrk.no/norge/gry-nygard-ble-ekskludert-fra-jehovas-vitner-_-vant-i-lagmannsretten-1.15570621.

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  Disillusioned

  The jw's won. The court decided they cannot enter into a religion member requirement. Where they lost was the court preventing spiteful suit against the woman to get lawyer fees back. The court also recognized the extreme treatment given.
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  What is "Brazen" conduct according to new 'Shepherd the Flock of God' book

  by TastingFreedom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what is brazen conduct according to the watchtower?.

  here are some references from the new flock book:.

  they have really pushed the envelope to bundle a bunch of things into one really evil word.

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  Van

  I picked up in the highlighted "insolent, contemptuous attitude". Especially the contempt part; where do we see that?🤔

  Otherwise brazen is holding your tongue wrong.
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  Awake Magazine - No Longer Being Printed?

  by JWTom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  someone made reference in another post that the awake magazine had ceased publication.

  maybe i missed it since i have not been on here as much in the last 6 months.

  is this true?

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  road to nowhere

  I get grocery ads every week printed on paper nearly as good as what the awake used to be, and similar size, mailed.

  Are they so cheap they can't do that? Maybe redo the format so we computer challenged can print a folding letter size mag.